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<< Comment #1 @ 22:04 CDT, 4 October 2010 >>

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funnyb

you really put oblivion above fallout3?

mmmmmeh...

<< Comment #20 @ 04:04 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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vuulx - Reply to #1

you really rate Fallout 3?

<< Comment #204 @ 18:59 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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sudstah - Reply to #1

yeah and rightly so, it was before its time, fallout 3 came about due to the success of oblivion, the quests were memorable, and the side quests were so deep! Fallout 3 (compared to oblivion) just felt like a rushed out game, quest wise with most side quests feeling lack lustre, I wasn't even happy with the ending (though it was still a good game to play) Hopefully New Vegas has improved fallout 3's flaws!

<< Comment #207 @ 14:01 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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kg - Reply to #204

I wouldn't get my hopes up. They really had a chance, though, walking around the wasteland is $$.

<< Comment #240 @ 18:11 CDT, 17 October 2010 >>

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tourist - Reply to #204

oblivion? memorable? only if you're a moron.

<< Comment #260 @ 14:28 CST, 8 November 2010 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #1

imo the fighting system has more sense in Oblivion
a guy with a sword coming straight at you is ok, but a guy with a kalashnikov doing the same is just stupid (AI in Oblivion and Fallout 3 looks the same, with minor modifications)

Edited by ScarletJohansonsFather at 14:29 CST, 8 November 2010

<< Comment #2 @ 22:10 CDT, 4 October 2010 >>

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stuntz

Fallout 3 is by a long mile the worst and the easiest of the Fallout series =p

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<< Comment #21 @ 04:23 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #2

set maximum difficulty
get FOWE
play without VATS
???
profit!

<< Comment #27 @ 05:26 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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wata - Reply to #21

but it's like oblivion, you can mod it as much as you want, it won't fix the story or the writing

<< Comment #28 @ 05:40 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #27

Fallout and Oblivion are sandbox games, not storyline games.

<< Comment #31 @ 06:19 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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wata - Reply to #28

ho ok
gotta tell OP too then

<< Comment #36 @ 08:05 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #31

Why? Sandbox and RPG are not mutually exclusive.

<< Comment #73 @ 11:21 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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wata - Reply to #36

in my book no story and rpg are

<< Comment #80 @ 12:31 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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T1E ' - Reply to #36

sandbox ain't really a genre imho

blown up gamemedia/reviewer fad to talk about "sandbox"

it's more like an additional mechanic or smth..

<< Comment #110 @ 19:29 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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stuntz - Reply to #21

honestly ive played the game like about a 20 different ways there is no real sense of danger facing enemies, with or without vats, in FO1 or FO2 if you faced on early stages a group of deathclaws or aliens youd better bring 200 tons of ammo and stimpaks because your chances of getting out of it alive without anyone of your party dieing were pretty small :)

Im not dishing the game but the previous storys were very well built and connected one with another even the side missions. Anyway im just a fan of the series and the 3rd one was just poor :D

<< Comment #111 @ 20:14 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #110

Did you play with FOWE, or just hard difficulty? FOWE makes the game significantly more difficult.

Edited by vedic at 21:22 CDT, 5 October 2010

<< Comment #114 @ 21:33 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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stuntz - Reply to #111

Yes i did, its is more difficult but nowhere near the others :) Quake style works in FO3 :P +back sniper yay

<< Comment #115 @ 21:42 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #114

+back sniping wouldn't work in FOWE unless you just didn't change any of the settings, and left it on easymode.

<< Comment #153 @ 16:21 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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cloned - Reply to #21

The problem with Fallout 3 is ( I actually enjoyed my playthrough ) that in comparison with part 1&2 the gameworld just feels empty in the end.

<< Comment #161 @ 20:15 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #153

Mods helps with that, though. Random encounters and gangs make such a difference.

<< Comment #197 @ 09:45 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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cloned - Reply to #161

It is not the combat that bored me. Compared to part 1&2 the new one didnt have any big NPC towns or cities. The old parts just had a gameworld that felt more "real". Part 3 which had some cool ideas ( loved the battle at Washington Monument) , felt superficial in the end.

<< Comment #245 @ 02:38 CDT, 18 October 2010 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #2

It's awful. They really need to implement enemy variety as one of their goals for the next iteration.

Oblivion was better.

I have not played the game with any mods.

Edited by zalu at 02:45 CDT, 18 October 2010

<< Comment #3 @ 23:19 CDT, 4 October 2010 >>

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illwill_

FF VII nigga

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<< Comment #4 @ 00:50 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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LoCK

Baldurs Gate 2. Planescape Torment.

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<< Comment #87 @ 14:01 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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Fejl(Folklore) - Reply to #4

Planescape Torment is absolutely Top1 SP RPG!

<< Comment #5 @ 01:26 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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Six16

Fable 2 I loved.

Gah, theres another one I loved but can't remember the name :|

<< Comment #6 @ 01:29 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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DamianLillard

more like singleplayer rpgs that were published last 5 years

<< Comment #7 @ 01:38 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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Raist

your list is completely wrong because it does not have Planescape: Torment in the #1 spot.

Edited by Raist at 01:39 CDT, 5 October 2010

<< Comment #8 @ 02:21 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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Lukas

1)Divine Divinity (the first)
2)Diablo 2
3)Fallout 3

Deus Ex is also great. Not really a RPG, but a shooter with RPG elements & good story.

<< Comment #247 @ 02:46 CDT, 18 October 2010 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #8

Thief 2 and Deus Ex are still revered by yours truly.

I'm too scared to try Deus Ex again, I might be appalled at how bad it has gotten over time.

<< Comment #261 @ 14:30 CST, 8 November 2010 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #247

lol, no
courage under fire, man :)

<< Comment #262 @ 14:30 CST, 8 November 2010 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #247

lol, no
courage under fire, man :)

<< Comment #9 @ 02:42 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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Xsi

Gothic 1&2
Morrowind
Baldurs Gate
The Witcher
Risen
Divine Divinity

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<< Comment #10 @ 02:44 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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p4r4

What the fuck is The Witcher and Risen?
And why the fuck there is no Baldur's Gate and Planescape Torment?
Also, why the fuck Dragon Age is in the list? It's a modern shit game that doesn't compare at all to old masterpieces.
Also, Fallout 3? Three??? Do you understand nothing about RPGs?

Edited by p4r4 at 02:50 CDT, 5 October 2010

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<< Comment #11 @ 02:51 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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jamalz

1. Chrono Trigger
2. Chrono Trigger
3. Chrono Trigger
4. Chrono Trigger
5. Chrono Trigger

Fuck new age shit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOmgIZZuI68

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<< Comment #85 @ 13:39 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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cerb0z - Reply to #11

This. Best story, best humor, best mechanics and interface.

<< Comment #92 @ 15:02 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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Raist - Reply to #11

I agree it was great. That music still gives me goosebumps :D

<< Comment #246 @ 02:43 CDT, 18 October 2010 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #11

There's something about multicolored hair, barbie outfits and EMO gayness that turns me off in regards to JRPGs.

I still listen to the soundtrack to FFIV.

<< Comment #248 @ 06:06 CDT, 18 October 2010 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #246

your loss buddy.

I even put chrono trigger slightly above zelda ocarina of time as best games i've ever played.
That's how badass it is.

<< Comment #251 @ 10:18 CDT, 18 October 2010 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #248

I've beaten CT. I enjoyed it too. :)

It's not better than OOT. But it's a good game for sure.

Edited by zalu at 10:18 CDT, 18 October 2010

<< Comment #252 @ 10:18 CDT, 18 October 2010 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #251

damn right you did

*calls off the hounds*

<< Comment #253 @ 10:21 CDT, 18 October 2010 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #252

I was just commenting on the over exaggerated artistic style I often see in JRPGs which kind of gets on my nerves, but not to a point where my enjoyment of the game actually suffers.

<< Comment #254 @ 10:22 CDT, 18 October 2010 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #253

well i jack it to hentai so its fine for me

<< Comment #270 @ 22:11 CST, 20 November 2010 >>

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goodbye_world - Reply to #251

OOT would be the best game of all time...if it weren't for A Link to the Past, the greatest game of all time.

<< Comment #250 @ 08:19 CDT, 18 October 2010 >>

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destrukt - Reply to #11

maybe the best rpg ever made. my fav game of all time for sure

<< Comment #12 @ 02:54 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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raithza

1) nethack

<< Comment #22 @ 04:39 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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melks - Reply to #12

Always preferred angband 2.4.frog-knows to nethack

<< Comment #13 @ 03:12 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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GUArd

gothic 1 / 2
risen
fallout 3

<< Comment #14 @ 03:19 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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1ecb61110

seiken densetsu 3

(And loads of other SNES RPG's)

<< Comment #145 @ 13:35 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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VeRTeX - Reply to #14

Is this even better than Seiken Densetsu 2 ? (Secret of mana)

I find that hard to believe!

<< Comment #146 @ 13:43 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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1ecb61110 - Reply to #145

It's as good as secret of mana. Just give it a go.

<< Comment #15 @ 03:22 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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daver

There's a distinct lack of Mass Effect in this thread.

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deji - Reply to #15

Comment #15 @ 11:22 EEST, 5 October 2010
There's a distinct lack of Mass Effect in this thread.

Comment #16 @ 11:22 EEST, 5 October 2010
Mass Effect 1&2

So close :(

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<< Comment #18 @ 03:26 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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daver - Reply to #17

Brofist! Have a consolation plus! :)

<< Comment #16 @ 03:22 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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deji

Mass Effect 1&2
Knights of the Old Republic

<< Comment #53 @ 09:33 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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kg - Reply to #16

Kotor was nice. ME is a "bad story well written".

<< Comment #56 @ 09:52 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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QkumbR - Reply to #53

as opposed to a good story written bad...you're dumb.

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kg - Reply to #56

Placebo, eh?

<< Comment #122 @ 06:11 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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deji - Reply to #53

Not a bad story, just a somewhat cliched story.

But who cares if the game immerses you and is fun as fuck to play. I played ME1 completely through, whereas I played Oblivion for about 10 hours before dropping it halfway and Fallout 3 I managed to play for about 2 hours before tossing it.

(edit) Oh and I actually think ME2's storyline was quite interesting overall.

Edited by deji at 06:18 CDT, 6 October 2010

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kg - Reply to #122

But who cares?

The only thing I felt upon finishing the game was "huh, it's over. kewl." I cba to play through it again, because of it's movie-style linearity (?) (and a story that a preschooler could think of).

I really liked the (somewhat simple) combat (apart from my characters shooting into walls !@#$%!). The voice acting / immersion was pretty nice too.

e: oblivion is a totally different game, doesn't lead you by the hand as much (even less with certain addons). The Dark Brotherhood storyline is pretty nice.

Edited by kg at 06:36 CDT, 6 October 2010

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deji - Reply to #123

Just because a game has linearity doesn't make it bad. Are thrillers worse than action movies because you only have a reason to watch a thriller once, as you know the plot twists the seond time around, while you can watch mindless action movies several times, because explosions and blood never get old?

I guess you and I look for different things in games. I look for the game to be fun and immersive while I play, not after I actually finish it. If a game is really fun and completely draws me in for hours at a time, it's a good game in my book.

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kg - Reply to #125

It was fun to play, but ultimately unfulfilling. I got to level 31 on my first sitting so I did get drawn in.

Are thrillers worse than action movies because you only have a reason to watch a thriller once, as you know the plot twists the seond time around, while you can watch mindless action movies several times, because explosions and blood never get old?

I'd say that replaying ME is more about the explosions and blood than the plot twists. Besides, it didn't really matter what I do. Kill the rachni queen? Let it go? You still get told off by the same member of the council no matter what you do.

<< Comment #19 @ 04:02 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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vuulx

1) Planescape Torment
2) Fallout 2
3) Baldur's Gate
4) Ultima (pick one)
5) System Shock 2

Honorary mention: Deus Ex.

Edited by s3ntient at 04:02 CDT, 5 October 2010

<< Comment #23 @ 04:50 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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brz

1) suikoden 2
2) suikoden
3) chrono trigger
4) ff3
5) ff7

1990s best

Edited by brz at 05:10 CDT, 6 October 2010

<< Comment #227 @ 21:44 CDT, 13 October 2010 >>

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fws - Reply to #23

Suikoden 2 would make it to the top of the list just for the scene in which Viki shows up with fork and knife in her hands :P
If there was ever a cattegory called Best Sequel, nothing would come close to that game given all the characters connections and backgrounds.

Still, each time Im asked about best rpg the first thing that comes to my mind is Star Ocean The Second Story.

<< Comment #24 @ 05:03 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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ZeritoN

I've never played Fallout 3 but consider 1&2 some of the best RPGs EVAR... Does 3 compare? (and even if it doesn't, is it still decent?)

<< Comment #25 @ 05:15 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #24

Like Oblivion, it's a million times better with mods, and with the DLC.

It has it's charm, even though it's a bit easy - but that's where mods come in. FOWE adds realistic damage, nerfed VATS, injuries, fatigue, hunger/thirst, less clear karma lines, etc...

VATS lets you play the game like an RPG. Instead of actually firing at an opponent, you hit the VATS button and time freezes. You can select which opponents to shoot at, and which body part to target. Depending on visibility of that part, distance, weapon skill, etc, you see a % chance to hit it, and it does it all for you. It's fun, and has some cool death animations (HEAD ASPLOD), but it makes it too easy. Example:

With Fallout New Vegas coming out in just under 2 weeks, now is the time to play it.

Edited by vedic at 05:17 CDT, 5 October 2010

<< Comment #32 @ 06:25 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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vuulx - Reply to #25

no matter how hard you try, you can't polish a turd.

<< Comment #45 @ 08:53 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #32

what if the person who drops the turd has eaten a diamond ring a few days before?

<< Comment #51 @ 09:08 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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vuulx - Reply to #45

Your diamond ring won't be digested or broken down, so you can remove it from the turd and polish it without issues other than smell, but wear rubber gloves.

I guess you could leave it in the turd and polish the whole thing, but you'd just end up with a ring in one hand and a big mess everywhere else.

Let's say you did find a way to polish a turd (with or without diamond ring), all you'll end up with is a turd, albeit shiny and probably hard.

My point was that sure you can get mods and addons to make the game incrementally better, but in the end it's still not great and a far-cry from the level of quality of the two first games in the series. The soul of Fallout just isn't there.

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becks - Reply to #51

but what is a turd if not things that your body has not digested?

Therefore, a diamond ring is as much a part of it as everything else. And when you polish it, i.e. wipe the brown stuff of you have a shiny diamond in your hand.

<< Comment #54 @ 09:47 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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vuulx - Reply to #52

Well if we're going into semantics, it all depends on which definition you use. If we use this one, you're wrong:
"bodily waste matter derived from ingested food and the secretions of the intestines and discharged through the anus".

Your best counter argument from the start would have been this procedure:
1. petrify turd
2. polish petrified turd

<< Comment #64 @ 10:07 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #54

You must be shitting me.

<< Comment #86 @ 13:59 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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vuulx - Reply to #64

I've never actually understood that expression, but no, I am not shitting you ;)

Edited by s3ntient at 14:02 CDT, 5 October 2010

<< Comment #91 @ 14:44 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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T1E ' - Reply to #86

ach, cut the crap!

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goodbye_world - Reply to #91

Bull shit.

<< Comment #58 @ 09:53 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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QkumbR - Reply to #32

Good thing it's not a turd eh?

<< Comment #62 @ 10:06 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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vuulx - Reply to #58

I guess it depends on whether you've played the first two or not, after all it's a matter of taste, but in my opinion it is. I was disappointed by it, and my expectations weren't very high to begin with for obvious reasons.

But then I'm not particularly keen on Bethesda's other games, I find them to be largely boring.

<< Comment #65 @ 10:09 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #62

this far it was just a theoretical discussion, but now you really disgust me.

after all it's a matter of taste,

ewwwww

<< Comment #66 @ 10:14 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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vuulx - Reply to #65

Dude, you're german, you guys are known for your scat porn. Surely it should take more to disgust you :D

<< Comment #68 @ 10:19 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #66

touché :[

<< Comment #88 @ 14:21 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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skint - Reply to #25

thought the DLCs were a bit shit, that achorage one massive load crap

<< Comment #105 @ 18:22 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #88

Many mods require certain DLC for functionality.

<< Comment #256 @ 00:39 CDT, 5 November 2010 >>

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kg - Reply to #25

Any other mods worth using?

<< Comment #259 @ 03:04 CDT, 5 November 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #256

It comes down to preference and how you build your character. I'd say just browse fallout 3 nexus until you have everything you like.

The main two that everyone should have are underground hideout and FWE

Additionally, if you're playing new vegas, new vegas nexus already has a ton of mods.

<< Comment #26 @ 05:19 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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cloned

1) Fallout
2) Arcanum
3) System Shock
4) DSA - Sternenschweif
5) Ultima 8 Pagan

Never played Planescape Torment, but bought it this week over at gog.com. Hope I can find some time to play it. Think I really missed something there!

<< Comment #46 @ 08:55 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #26

Sternenschweif $$$

<< Comment #99 @ 16:53 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #26

arcanum $

<< Comment #136 @ 12:16 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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tourist - Reply to #26

http://www.schmitz-junior.de/uploaded_images/...753625.jpg

?

<< Comment #143 @ 13:25 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #136

yes, that's the one.

You can decide if you want to be a unicorn, a pony or a wild mustang.
True rpg right there!!

<< Comment #154 @ 16:26 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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cloned - Reply to #136

http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/realms-of-a...star-trail :)

<< Comment #29 @ 06:05 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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sudstah

I actually forgot about Fable, the fable games are fun too, if your into a less serious, more cartoony rpg, I've never get deeply involved into the story and the questing tho.

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[mash]

Not mentioning Final Fantasy (7) and Kotor 1+2=massive fail.

<< Comment #33 @ 07:09 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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sudstah - Reply to #30

well I kind of grow out of old games, they are classics, but I wanted to list some games that came out within the last few years

Edited by sudsta at 07:09 CDT, 5 October 2010

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tourist - Reply to #33

Dragon Age

<< Comment #34 @ 07:47 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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qtip

ProgressQuest best

<< Comment #35 @ 08:01 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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Six16

Why has no1 mentioned the 1 I've forgotten yet? It's a couple of years old, indie dev's and on the cartoony side.. you can choose out of 3 players.

[+] for whoever gets it :)

<< Comment #38 @ 08:12 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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dansen - Reply to #35

vikings 2

<< Comment #39 @ 08:15 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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Six16 - Reply to #38

nope..

F it, im gonna go look on steam for the name.

<< Comment #40 @ 08:16 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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Six16 - Reply to #35

TORCHLIGHT! :)

<< Comment #41 @ 08:19 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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dansen - Reply to #40

dude.. i was gonna seriously say torchlight, but its not an indie dev and its only about 1.5 years old

<< Comment #42 @ 08:20 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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dansen - Reply to #41

i bought it a year ago, and would play again when multiplayer support comes around

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f0rk123 - Reply to #42

The multiplayer is coming for a sequel not a patch.

<< Comment #47 @ 08:57 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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Six16 - Reply to #41

Sorry I was pretty hazy with the details.. my memory is shit :<

<< Comment #37 @ 08:10 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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boenk

KotOR 1
Mass Effect 2
Mass Effect 1
KotOR 2 (with a shitload of community patches finally playable)
Alpha Protocol (buggy and ugly, but still pretty cool)

ye i know, i'm not much of a rpg guy tbh :>

<< Comment #43 @ 08:30 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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ZeritoN

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vedic - Reply to #43

Horrible version. =X

More like this:

Edited by vedic at 08:54 CDT, 5 October 2010

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ZeritoN - Reply to #44

The Black Mages is Nobuo Uematsu's band :P

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vedic - Reply to #49

It's so much worse than his actual video game works, though. Maybe 2-3 good songs across all the albums they've done. =/

<< Comment #48 @ 08:57 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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T1E '

FF6,7, BGate 2, Planescape, Chrono Trigger, Fallout, yeah, but you've all forgotten one: Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines

and a Bonus Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u84cH_bmTA

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fuzz

Fallout 1&2
Morrowind
The Witcher
Planescape Torment
Baldurs Gate 1 & 2
Diablo 2
Chrono Trigger

all <3

also Risen, Divine Divinty and Mass Effect 1 were nice!

<< Comment #57 @ 09:53 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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abso

Zelda Orcania of Time
Mass Effect 2
Mass Effect 1
Fallout 2
Diablo 2

<< Comment #75 @ 11:41 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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duumed - Reply to #57

zelda isn't really an rpg

<< Comment #214 @ 16:23 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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26671 - Reply to #75

Correct. It's an action-adventure that shares a couple things in common with RPG's. It's still not an RPG by any means.

<< Comment #59 @ 09:56 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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QkumbR

Leisure Suit Larry : Land of the Lounge Lizards.

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<< Comment #69 @ 10:20 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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vuulx - Reply to #59

Leisure Suit Larry, now that brings back memories :)

<< Comment #77 @ 12:10 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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qtip - Reply to #59

Those were nice back in the day. Also Zak McCracken and Maniac Mansion and so on, but those arent really RPGs either. The old RPGs(like Bards Tale) were rather crap compared to other genres at that time. Altho i played them all.

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QkumbR - Reply to #77

yeah i mean it's more of an 'adventure' game, but during that time period it was one of the best.

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QkumbR - Reply to #78

a little bit more serious though...Ultima 7. That game was amazing.

<< Comment #83 @ 13:32 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #77

"dsa" aka "realms of arcania" trilogy was pretty cool!

Edited by becks at 13:32 CDT, 6 October 2010

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Kaide

Suikoden II

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brz - Reply to #61

if i plussed people i would plus this. congrats on good taste

<< Comment #199 @ 11:15 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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CLains - Reply to #98

damn right, suikoden 2 and ff7 :D

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brz - Reply to #199

downloading a psx emulator for my phone and suikoden 2 - no more boring 8am lectures ;D

<< Comment #203 @ 13:04 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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CLains - Reply to #202

lol. enjooooy :)

<< Comment #63 @ 10:06 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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Falzzi

I want to go emo and kill myself when people mention fo3 in the top 5 for _R P Gs_

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<< Comment #67 @ 10:17 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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dansen

quest for glory 2: trial by fire

edit: the original version, without the multiple selection dialogues

Edited by dansen at 10:17 CDT, 5 October 2010

<< Comment #70 @ 10:55 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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dansen - Reply to #67

any monty python fan will probably love the game

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Fearghas - Reply to #67

personally I thought the vga remake of qfg 1 was the best of the series thought 2 wasn't bad. you played any of the remakes?

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<< Comment #107 @ 18:53 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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dansen - Reply to #95

i got qfg2 when i was 7 years old. never knew the first part. i fought with the game a very long time, i think i finished it for the first time when i was 11 or something.

i also played qfg4 or qfg5, whichever one came out ~1997/1998, but i thought it sucked and never played through.

i loved the "ask for"/ "tell" / "bargain" / "say" / "buy" - and then type stuff-gameplay, and the whole exploring part of the game, plus the humor, even as a kid. i still laugh when i watch youtube videos about the game, even today.

no other roleplaying game has ever provoked so much curiosity, or adventure-spirit in me as this one has. probably has alot to do with the fact that i was very young when i played it.

and i honestly can't believe they later added multiple choice answersn and so on.

a year ago or so i installed some remake of the game, but never got around to play it because the remake also only had the multi choice stuff.

rpgs like daggerfall, oblivion or what they're all called don't stand a chance against qfg2, imho.

edit: i thing it was actually "ask about" rather than "ask for"... ctrl+a :) and atrl+t being "tell about"
ha, fun times

edit2: to answer the other part of your question. i don't think i'd have liked qfg1 as much, just because of the style of the game, walking around in a hero-cape and so on.. qfg2 just had a really awesome setting... one that hasn't come around since, prince of persia obviously doesnt count

Edited by dansen at 18:57 CDT, 5 October 2010

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dansen - Reply to #95

one question tho.

does qfg1 have the same awesome humor as trial by fire? and do you, as a player of qfg games, find todays rpgs fun?

<< Comment #113 @ 21:06 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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Fearghas - Reply to #109

qfg 1 has the same style of humor, 3/4 were somewhat similar as well though more about puns I feel like, especially 4. I think part of what you don't like is the transition from command line interfaces. try looking for kings quest/space quest series, they were other adventure series from around the same time.

as for modern rpgs, I've enjoyed some, witcher/kotor 1 weren't bad, but I think it's similar to hollywood movies in that computer graphics have become the driving influence as opposed to characters/storyline and such. so I tend to only buy a few games as a result.

<< Comment #130 @ 09:34 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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QkumbR - Reply to #113

Kings Quest was friggin awesome. so fun. so hard. I remember one time i had to have been over halfway through and i forgot to grab some item at one point...had to start the whole damn thing over

<< Comment #206 @ 10:48 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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ddk - Reply to #67

!!!! qfg series was amazing, so few people have played them too, nice to see them get a mention.

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dansen - Reply to #206

word.. by far the best non fps or rts game ive ever played

<< Comment #71 @ 11:05 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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tRUMR

1 planescape torment
2 bg 2
3 fallout 2
4 bg
5 morrowind

I guess, 1-3 kind of fuzzy though.

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<< Comment #72 @ 11:17 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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Rizzo

Fallout 1 & 2
Planescape Torment
System Shock 2
VTM Bloodlines

/not a D&D fan

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<< Comment #170 @ 04:54 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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ZeritoN - Reply to #72

System Shock always frustrates me trying to play it because it barely works with new PCs unless you use crazy settings or run it in an old Windows or something

They seriously need to remake it (and by remake, I don't mean an overhaul of graphics or some shit. Just make it easily installable on new systems)

<< Comment #187 @ 20:01 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #170

There are fixes around for SS2. It takes some work but you can run it fine on modern rigs.

Take a peek over at demonoid.com, there are a couple of torrents of it containing built-in fixes there.

Agreed on the remake thing though, it's just such a fucking good game, it deserves a re-release fully runnable out of the box on today's pc's.

Edited by madbringer at 20:02 CDT, 7 October 2010

<< Comment #186 @ 19:57 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #72

Holy shit, someone with taste.

<< Comment #233 @ 08:36 CDT, 17 October 2010 >>

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mammon - Reply to #72

vampire is shit, no wonder the studio died right after it

<< Comment #235 @ 10:15 CDT, 17 October 2010 >>

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Rizzo - Reply to #233

Commercial success is not a benchmark for the quality of a certain game.

If I remember correctly they were developing PA title that should have been "spiritual successor" of Fallout. These days publishers main focus are the XBOX playing ADD kids.

<< Comment #236 @ 15:16 CDT, 17 October 2010 >>

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mammon - Reply to #235

no seriously, if you have to download an unofficial patch just to see the menu the game is a failure

<< Comment #237 @ 16:00 CDT, 17 October 2010 >>

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Rizzo - Reply to #236

I completed the game back when it came out and didn't have any problems with it. I mean sure it wasn't polished and all but nothing that serious.

<< Comment #74 @ 11:24 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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ambro

the only rpg i know is from duke nukem.

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<< Comment #81 @ 13:26 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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kevz

pokemon red and blue

D:

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<< Comment #82 @ 13:31 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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browser

Gothic 2 The Night of the Raven

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<< Comment #84 @ 13:35 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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[mash]

does someone have a good torrent for FF7(PC)?

<< Comment #106 @ 18:24 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #84

Good luck getting it to run. Even on newer service packs of XP, it has issues.

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[mash] - Reply to #106

Ya, seems to be pretty problematic. Gonna try again tonight. Downloaded the non-Ultimate edition + a lot of patches for this and that.

If it fails again, I'm gonna try ePSXe. Do you need a special "ROM"-version for this or can you actually download the PSX-version and mount it via Daemon Tools?

/e: just noticed the guide below ..

Edited by [mash] at 07:23 CDT, 6 October 2010

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vedic - Reply to #128

You don't even need to mount it - it can run an ISO directly, I believe. Finding settings that get the game to run correctly in epsxe is just as difficult as getting the PC version to run, though. About the only PSX game I've gotten to run near-flawlessly is FF9.

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[mash] - Reply to #162

Did you get it to run properly then? Only problem I have after a couple of tries is that the sound runs at ~half speed during fights, a couple of sounds (battle-swirl, weapon sounds and such) are fucked and the intro is way2long.

Got any experience? I'm using ePSXe 1.6, since 1.7 won't start up for me, and a couple of different sound plug-ins of which I can't remember the names.

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vedic - Reply to #172

Some certain mini-games/gimmicky stuff during the game can become unplayable, if I remember correctly. You need specific settings at certain points, and it's like dozens of tiny tweaks to the options.

I could never even get it to run well enough to start, but it could have been an older version (haven't tried it in a few years). I've only tried FF7, FF9, and Tales of Destiny 2. I didn't test Tales of Destiny 2 all the way through, but FF9 only had one issue on disc 2, which only required you to downgrade your epsxe version, pass the spot, save your game, and upgrade again.

Edited by vedic at 07:40 CDT, 7 October 2010

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[mash] - Reply to #174

Sucks. :/ Anyway, gonna play until bigger problems pop up.

Why is it such a hassle to get the PC-Version running? Do Square never patch their games, or what?

Edited by [mash] at 08:16 CDT, 7 October 2010

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vedic - Reply to #175

The PC version came out before Square was really established as an international company, so they didn't have the kind of support you'd expect, and the Japanese market all played on console.

All I know is that the game stopped working due to some conflict with SP1, and there was supposed to be some fan-fix, but it was iffy, and newer service packs made it even worse. Trying to get it to work on vista/7 (especially 64bit) would probably be about as fun as getting KOTOR to work on them. =(

<< Comment #112 @ 20:33 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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illwill_ - Reply to #84

Get ePSXe emulator and then the CD files for FF7 (3 discs). I'm not sure how well it's aged but you can make the graphics look a little better with filters.

<< Comment #117 @ 05:18 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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brz - Reply to #112

how does epsxe work anyway? do u need to download the program and a bios file or what?

<< Comment #118 @ 05:27 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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illwill_ - Reply to #117

You need the program, a BIOS, and then plugins for graphics, sound, etc.
You can find guides online. There is one here for example:
http://www.emuxhaven.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6173

<< Comment #119 @ 05:32 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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brz - Reply to #118

sick man thanks (:

<< Comment #228 @ 21:51 CDT, 13 October 2010 >>

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fws - Reply to #117

Suikodens and 2D games in general work usualy good. I say they look best with basic software graphic plugin, no specific api plugins, and no enhancements.
Then again even after so many years some 3D games are way too glitchy, like Vargant Story for example.

<< Comment #89 @ 14:23 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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skint

from what i can remember the last RPG i finished was KOTOR, dont have the patience for them anymore =(

<< Comment #90 @ 14:32 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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yikes

Monkey Island!

<< Comment #96 @ 15:50 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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sudstah - Reply to #90

that's an adventure game, not an rpg

<< Comment #131 @ 09:35 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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yikes - Reply to #96

No, it's an interactive comedy dressed up as a video game. :P

<< Comment #93 @ 15:37 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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cyronix '

rpg are for lowbrainers, who can only repetetively click on a mouse button ... play mario galaxy (1 or 2) instead

<< Comment #97 @ 16:16 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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QkumbR - Reply to #93

RPG's nowadays yes.....

<< Comment #213 @ 16:21 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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26671 - Reply to #93

RPG's are all about the atmosphere established by its setting and the satisfaction that comes with seeing your characters develop into stronger combatants (usually with more spells and items) over time. Some RPG's also tell a really good story, which is why a lot of people really like them.

<< Comment #224 @ 05:48 CDT, 13 October 2010 >>

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cyronix ' - Reply to #213

RPG Story ...

Enter a new realm.
Kill monsters and gain experience points. In between you reach a new level which allows you to add or increase an ability (which is not really an ability, but increases only some points, be it hitpoints, healpoints, damagepoints).
Repeat killing monsters until all monsters are killed. Go to Endboss. Kill him.
Enter a new Realm (which is not really different, the terrain only has some other textures and the monsters are still the same but deal more damage and have more hitpoints). Repeat this with every realm until all realms are visited.
Goto Ultimate Endboss. Kill him.

<< Comment #241 @ 18:17 CDT, 17 October 2010 >>

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tourist - Reply to #224

http://www.kongregate.com/games/backburner/statbuilder-classic

Edited by tourist at 18:18 CDT, 17 October 2010

<< Comment #94 @ 15:40 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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gl00my

For me nothing seems to beat FF7.I wish i could erase my memory so i could experience the first playthrough again :D

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<< Comment #101 @ 16:56 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #94

that shit was pretty damn cool

<< Comment #104 @ 18:13 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #94

That was always one of my ideas. Erasing your own memory so you can play video games over n over or watch movies that are amazing again and again.

Kinda like Memento, good movie too.

I'd totally play Ocarina of Time 20 times in a row If I could do that.

Edited by jamalz at 18:14 CDT, 5 October 2010

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gl00my - Reply to #104

Totaly agree ;)

<< Comment #216 @ 16:31 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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26671 - Reply to #94

Meh. The gameplay is solid, but I thought its story was a bit over-the-top and the graphics didn't really compliment the atmosphere it tried to project as a 3D RPG. FFIII/FFVI had a better arch villain anyways.

Edited by advent™ at 16:31 CDT, 11 October 2010

<< Comment #100 @ 16:56 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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voodoochopstiks

Arcanum
Knights Of The Old Republic
Fallout 3
The Oregon Trail(!)

<< Comment #102 @ 17:06 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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Ryan2015

suikoden 2

besides that one ive not been into rpg that much

Fallout was to slow and well just boring

<< Comment #103 @ 17:17 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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calleking

cooller

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<< Comment #108 @ 18:58 CDT, 5 October 2010 >>

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ix

Ultima 7

<< Comment #116 @ 04:38 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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Teen Queen '

Fallout series.

<< Comment #120 @ 05:44 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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micke

dink smallwood

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<< Comment #171 @ 05:13 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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meh_ - Reply to #120

damn dude, you've just reminded me how awesome it was. *searching where to download*

<< Comment #121 @ 06:11 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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0x5f3759df

morrowind
fallout 2
mass effect 1
mass effect 2
oblivion/fallout 3 (no vats)

<< Comment #124 @ 06:32 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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kg

Which of these old-school games have semi-decent graphics? When I tried playing Fallout 1 couldn't really get past that. :@

<< Comment #129 @ 07:39 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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vuulx - Reply to #124

All the Infinity Engine games (Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, Planescape Torment, etc) have great graphics if you use the widescreen mod to give you access to higher resolutions.

<< Comment #134 @ 11:15 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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hilla - Reply to #124

Fallout 2 graphics beat almost any today's game.

<< Comment #140 @ 12:22 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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tourist - Reply to #124

Morrowind. and not semi

Edited by tourist at 12:22 CDT, 6 October 2010

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f0rk123 - Reply to #124

Most have been modded loads to make them look pretty good, and take advantage of modern gameplay advances (the good ones).

Edited by f0rk123 at 13:33 CDT, 6 October 2010

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kg - Reply to #144

Great, hard to be an elitist playing today's games. :@

<< Comment #149 @ 14:33 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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DamianLillard - Reply to #124

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8Xu8Gbl3EU&feature=related

though subtitles blocking the "graphics" badly :(

<< Comment #184 @ 19:53 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #124

You can't get past old graphics so that you can experience a decent/good/great plot, writing, characters and atmosphere? It's as if you said you can't get past bad production in bm. I am disappoint. :/

<< Comment #190 @ 04:01 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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kg - Reply to #184

I'll try Fallout again in some time, but as of now anything pre-scbw graphics looks shit. Unless it's like mario on a snes emulator. :@

<< Comment #192 @ 05:09 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #190

:@ Your call, but you're missing out. Also fu Fallout's graphics ain't that ugly QQ

<< Comment #195 @ 06:30 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Rizzo - Reply to #192

Fallout / Torment at 1280x800 on my Tablet PC (no keyboard) = Sex!

<< Comment #126 @ 06:49 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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stingerrayer

1) single
2) player
3) games
4) are
5) boring

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<< Comment #209 @ 16:13 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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26671 - Reply to #126

1) You
2) Are
3) A
4) Huge
5) Faggot

I mean, that's as stupid as saying movies and TV shows are boring because you can't interact with the characters in them. Why even post in this thread at all if you simply don't like single-player games?

Edited by advent™ at 16:16 CDT, 11 October 2010

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tourist - Reply to #209

1)raged
2)jew
3)is
4)raged

<< Comment #244 @ 21:47 CDT, 17 October 2010 >>

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26671 - Reply to #242

1) Tourist
2) Says
3) Hurrrr
4) Durrrr

<< Comment #127 @ 06:56 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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Lethe

1. Dragon Age
2. Baldur's Gate (has multi but whatever)
3. Baldur's Gate 2
4. Fallout
5. Fallout 2

<< Comment #132 @ 10:39 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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Drexciyian

Zelda on the snes
ff7

<< Comment #133 @ 11:03 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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vxd

Baldurs gate 1 & 2 (kensai/mag yo o/)

<< Comment #139 @ 12:21 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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tourist

final fantasy VII is an oxymoron

<< Comment #148 @ 14:22 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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DamianLillard - Reply to #139

on both accounts

<< Comment #141 @ 12:53 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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[mantis]

Diablo 1 + 2
Baldur's gate 1 + 2
Wizardry series
Might & Magic series

and the most hardcore shizzle - Dungeon master

<< Comment #150 @ 14:43 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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DamianLillard - Reply to #141

From the best games of last 6 months to best games of prohibition era, thread delivers

<< Comment #142 @ 13:22 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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ischju

Diablo II: LOD

<< Comment #151 @ 14:48 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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frame

1. Baldursgate 2
2. Baldursgate 1
3. Baldursgate 2
4. Baldursgate 2
5. Baldursgate 2

<< Comment #179 @ 10:43 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #151

almost [+], but missing dragon age

<< Comment #152 @ 15:48 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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JayDee_

#1 The Secret of Mana

<< Comment #155 @ 17:17 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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Terifire

Well, all the games listed in this thread I guess. Except for fallout 3.

There was a nice one for the gamecube, not sure if it really counts, but lost kingdom.

Also, I liked the RPG like elements in metroid prime and metroid prime echoes. Lots and lots of lore.

But besides that, I'm a huge fan of the elder scrolls series... and to be perfectly honest I do prefer games with good graphics.

The big thing with morrowind is that, it's quite large but the areas are so diverse, whereas in oblivion, all of the landscape is quite similair, and there's only snow when you go up in the mountains.

<< Comment #156 @ 17:23 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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Dird

pokemon red

<< Comment #168 @ 04:15 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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koekie - Reply to #156

BLUE > RED

<< Comment #210 @ 16:14 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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26671 - Reply to #168

Blastoise > Charizard

<< Comment #217 @ 17:57 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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koekie - Reply to #210

Exactly!

<< Comment #157 @ 17:35 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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mar-

Fable :D

<< Comment #158 @ 18:41 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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lolograde '

No one mentioned DEUS EX?

<< Comment #169 @ 04:49 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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vuulx - Reply to #158

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1969244#pid1969244

<< Comment #159 @ 18:59 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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tom

is ocarina of time an rpg? if so it wins

<< Comment #165 @ 23:41 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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illwill_ - Reply to #159

No, it has some RPG elements but isn't RPG. Along with half the games mentioned in this thread.

<< Comment #166 @ 00:38 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #165

It is an action RPG.

<< Comment #215 @ 16:28 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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26671 - Reply to #166

It isn't because you beef up your character solely through item collection rather than killing monsters to level up -- in fact, there is no levelling up in that regard at all.

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vedic - Reply to #215

Leveling up is a feature of an RPG, but not the cornerstone.

<< Comment #222 @ 02:24 CDT, 13 October 2010 >>

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26671 - Reply to #221

Name one game that's officially labelled an RPG (which the LoZ series isn't anyways since it's an action-adventure) that doesn't involve levelling up a character. It's a pseudo-RPG of sorts at best, but having an expandable amounts of hearts, an expandable green magic bar, optional levels and a slew of items to collect in a free-roaming world does not by any means make a game an RPG. The Metroid series and GTA series both have many similarities in how their core gameplay mechanics work to the LoZ series but they're not RPG's either.

Edited by advent™ at 02:31 CDT, 13 October 2010

<< Comment #223 @ 03:15 CDT, 13 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #222

There is no "official" RPG label.

<< Comment #160 @ 19:55 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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Lisk

Sengoku Rance

<< Comment #163 @ 23:02 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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erok

I still have the fondest memories of playing N64's Zelda: Ocarina of Time that game was fucking awesome :D

<< Comment #164 @ 23:03 CDT, 6 October 2010 >>

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erok - Reply to #163

and FF VII ofc

<< Comment #167 @ 02:45 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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amOKchen

1. Ultimate Underworld (this was epic and I once installed an old OS to play it again!)

Behold: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultima_Underworld:_The_Stygian_Abyss

Edited by amOKchen at 02:46 CDT, 7 October 2010

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Ghostrunner - Reply to #167

I agree Ultima Underworld was nice.

<< Comment #173 @ 07:31 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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Gaz08

no one mentioned neverwinter nights? one or two? :(((

<< Comment #176 @ 08:15 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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Thorin

Fallout 2
Planescape Torment
Zelda: OoT
Final Fantasy VII
Xenogears

It's kinda problematic listing RPGs since there are a bunch of cross-genre games likes System Shock 2 or Deus Ex which have RPG elements.

Edited by Thorin at 08:16 CDT, 7 October 2010

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26671 - Reply to #176

The LoZ series are all action-adventures, not RPG's.

<< Comment #178 @ 10:27 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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shadowmaster155

Kotor
Kotor 2
Oblivion
Dragon age
Mount & Blade

<< Comment #180 @ 11:06 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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koOma

1. Final Fantasy VII
2. Final Fantasy VII
3. Final Fantasy VII
4. Final Fantasy VII
5. Final Fantasy VII

<< Comment #181 @ 11:18 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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gSTRUCTOR '

1. Wonder Boy in Monsterland
2. See 1
3. See 1
4. See 1
5. See 1

<< Comment #182 @ 16:39 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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wingz

FF VII

/thread

<< Comment #183 @ 19:34 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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0x5f3759df

almost forgot

shenmue :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

<< Comment #185 @ 19:54 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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madbringer

The op made my brain bleed anal juices.

<< Comment #188 @ 20:13 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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madbringer

1) Fallout 2
2) Baldur's Gate 2
3) Deus Ex
4) System Shock 2
5) Demise

<< Comment #189 @ 22:15 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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mastab - Reply to #188

indeed ss2 is great. still want to play deus ex

<< Comment #191 @ 04:02 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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kg - Reply to #188

WHAT NO ARCANUM RPGKODEKS ??

<< Comment #193 @ 05:11 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #191

Nej. It's a very good game, but i didn't play/want to play/went back to it as much as to those listed above. Also RPGCodex is a bunch of dicks, don't believe everything they say. Xd plz

<< Comment #194 @ 05:37 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Six16

I must play some of these...

Someone recommend a good place to start.. Must work on win 7 x64 :o

<< Comment #196 @ 09:23 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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cloned - Reply to #194

You can find many of the games listed here at gog.com. You can normally buy them for around 5$, DRM free and the games work with new OS. Personally I would recommend of course Fallout 1.

<< Comment #198 @ 09:45 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Six16 - Reply to #196

Thanks I'll take a look!

<< Comment #200 @ 11:23 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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CLains

What about.. Legend of Legaia! :D:D

Edited by CPLains at 11:34 CDT, 8 October 2010

<< Comment #201 @ 11:39 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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f-shawn

demon's souls.

<< Comment #205 @ 21:42 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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MBuddy

Deus Ex

5%

<< Comment #211 @ 16:14 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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26671

Haven't played a brand-new RPG in years, so this list is pretty old.

1) Chrono Trigger
2) Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
3) Final Fantasy VIII
4) ~~Final Fantasy IX~~ Super Mario RPG :D
5) Star Ocean: The Second Story

Edited by advent™ at 02:35 CDT, 13 October 2010

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26671 - Reply to #211

And, seriously, how the fuck has no one else mentioned SotN? It's one of the best RPG's ever made.

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wingz - Reply to #212

true dat, spent so much time on it, took a while to figure out how i get to the chaos world tho

<< Comment #229 @ 22:04 CDT, 13 October 2010 >>

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fws - Reply to #211

Star Ocean The Second Story at last. My networks are named Expel and Nede :P
Cuddle all the way
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRdYMVIiVSs

Reminds me that I want to play Star Ocean Blue Sphere in english.

<< Comment #218 @ 21:00 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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f0cus

Chrono Trigger
Luna
Ocarina of Time

<< Comment #225 @ 06:01 CDT, 13 October 2010 >>

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T1E '

Would people agree if I'd say No one lives forever 2 has strong RPG elements??
anyway, it's awesome

<< Comment #226 @ 18:15 CDT, 13 October 2010 >>

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calleking

pizza worm

<< Comment #230 @ 22:14 CDT, 13 October 2010 >>

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fws

1. Star Ocean The Second Story
2. Suikoden 2

As for further places it is hard to rate one over another, but no FF7 in top 10 or even 20. It is nice to see so many people rating Chrono Trigger high, it is great game, but as far as SNES titles go, I dont think I would rate it over Tales of Phantasia and Star Ocean.

<< Comment #231 @ 19:10 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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ani

Militia wins?

<< Comment #264 @ 14:37 CST, 8 November 2010 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #231

not this time =(

<< Comment #232 @ 07:32 CDT, 17 October 2010 >>

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cyronix '

there are still 2 games on my to-do list (the last ones I hope) from the SNES era:

- Secret of Mana
- Chrono Trigger

<< Comment #257 @ 02:09 CDT, 5 November 2010 >>

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Raist - Reply to #232

both are must plays, you dont know what you are missing :)

especially chrono trigger.

<< Comment #234 @ 09:31 CDT, 17 October 2010 >>

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koOma

Oh and, who's psyked for Diablo 3? I know I am!

<< Comment #238 @ 16:06 CDT, 17 October 2010 >>

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kevz - Reply to #234

FUCK YEAH

gonna take ages before its out tho :<

<< Comment #239 @ 16:48 CDT, 17 October 2010 >>

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koOma - Reply to #238

I know. I'm actually considering buying loot for D2, that's how much I'm craving it : \

<< Comment #243 @ 19:22 CDT, 17 October 2010 >>

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Omni

No Mass Effect 1 and 2 ?

Risen is junk.

<< Comment #249 @ 07:21 CDT, 18 October 2010 >>

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koOma

just downloaded Mass Effect 2. Terrible PC game, the controls were just horrid : \

Insta getting Fallout New Vegas tho.

<< Comment #255 @ 15:54 CDT, 18 October 2010 >>

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benjaminauer

1. porn
2. cooller
3. cooller
4. cooller
5. cooller

<< Comment #258 @ 02:49 CDT, 5 November 2010 >>

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IrrSolicitude

1. Baldur's Gate 2 (alltimes classic, with mods even more awesome)
2. Planscape Tourment (story and world setting is unique)
3. Fallout 2 (freedom :D)
4. The Lands of Lore: The Throne of Chaos (my first good RPG experince on computer)
5. Bioshock (if you put this as an RPG)

<< Comment #263 @ 14:35 CST, 8 November 2010 >>

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oreozz

breath of fire 3

<< Comment #265 @ 14:40 CST, 8 November 2010 >>

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baron Railgun :

ToEE
Deus Ex
SS 2
VTM Bloodlines
Bioshock

<< Comment #266 @ 05:31 CST, 10 November 2010 >>

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AL|EN '

1. Baldur's Gate 1,2
2. Fallout 1,2
3. Planscape Tourment

Anyowne who puts Fallout 3 on that list don't know anything about what good RPG is.

Edited by AL|EN at 05:40 CST, 10 November 2010

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IrrSolicitude - Reply to #266

True
Fallout 3 is an okay RPG, but far behind Fallout 2/1

<< Comment #268 @ 20:14 CST, 20 November 2010 >>

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fazz

FF VII

And I don't care if it's an RPG thread, Shadow of the colossus, if you haven't played it. DO IT

<< Comment #269 @ 21:00 CST, 20 November 2010 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #268

if its for the pc i'll go look for it, thanks

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kapca - Reply to #269

Shadow of the Colossus is for the Playstation2, and it was awesome just like ICO, and many other PS2 game:).
EDIT: You can play if you have a powerful PC

Edited by kapca at 08:08 CST, 21 November 2010

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Snip

Chrono Trigger
Red Dead Redemption
Planescape Torment
KOTOR

<< Comment #273 @ 02:40 CST, 21 November 2010 >>

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kapca

Zelda, Chrono Trigger and Baldurs Gate 2 are the three which influenced me the most, but there are many good runner ups out there, like FF or Dragon Age.

<< Comment #275 @ 10:31 CST, 21 November 2010 >>

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yank3

fallout1/2, dsa2/3,bg2, kotor, divine divinity, wizardry8,ff3/9 :P, gothic 2/3 :P
ow online: neocron,fallen earth

Edited by yank3 at 10:34 CST, 21 November 2010

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Ghostrunner

Ultima Ascension was a great one. This amazing big world.
At the release time it was a hell af a game, and you needed a PC with 800 Mhz to play it at 30 fps.

<< Comment #278 @ 05:30 CDT, 1 November 2011 >>

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DemnokK

In no particular order Top 10:

Vagrant Story
Baldurs Gate 2
Chrono Trigger
Xenogears
Fallout 1
Fallout 2
Deus Ex
System Shock 2
Elder Scrolls: Oblivion
Fallout 3

<< Comment #279 @ 05:50 CDT, 1 November 2011 >>

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mcdaddysandwich

1. FINAL FANTASY X
2. FINAL FANTASY X
3. FINAL FANTASY X
4. FINAL FANTASY X
5. FINAL FANTASY X

<< Comment #280 @ 06:07 CDT, 1 November 2011 >>

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melechesh '

The crown jewel is no doubt Deus Ex, for me. Not that I played many RPGs... :D But Deus Ex made me come bouqets.