Hmm wtf :P Phoenix ?

ultimate rage

:/

Well if you have a bad day and you meet a +back/defensive player like that its ok to rage imo ,i know i would :P

sad but true

those spanish guys with their fucking radars...

I've always wondered, is the holysh1t stream delayed by a certain amount (like hltv's etc) or can a player actually just have it running alongside his monitor and just ghost the other player the whole match? :P

they got about 10-20 seconds delay, depending on caching etc.

more like 5 sec

wtf?

pwned :) 10 for rage ! \:D/

its pheonix ffs

you're a phoenix, hey this guy is a great big phoenix!

Having watched the demo, I'd be compelled to rate it a 0, not for Noctis, but for the other guys +back and dodginess.


I mean, there were some situations that just seemed too good to be true. Like him randomly jumping around a corner and railing first time or just constantly knowing EXACTLY where noctis was. I'm not calling the guy out on it (actually no wait, I probably am) and I don't doubt it's probably just that he's very good, but some of those situations were dodgier then midget scat porn.

Not even mentioning the boring +back fest. I mean... I know QuakeLive generally encourages defensive play, but that's just overkill...

If you think he's dodgy in this one go watch the vs guard ztn game and check out some of his rails

Yeah I watched that live and laughed at a few of them (including the 'BOOOOTT' rage from guard :P)

he is legit, and i was already raged before it even started ^^

midget scat porn is not about dodging.

yawn

I think it's hilarious how dodgey players like guard call other players cheaters who actually have proved themselves on lan (e.g. phoenix)

And this crying about +back is really getting tiresome. Whenever someone shows a intelligent game it's +back and boring. Get a different excuse kthx. Clearly phoenix showed a lot of respect to noctis and noctis showed zero respect to phoenix. Would noctis act the same way if this was a game vs rapha in the final of some big tournament, of course not. Noctis underestimated his opponent badly, and he should have known better.

+back is not intelligent, its +back

+back is not intelligent, but winning is

+back is intelligent when you win a tourney match like that agains one of the best duellers, brainiac.

well I didn't watch the game as I posted, now that I did......heh :P

sombra was lan proven...

So what, strenx is proved on lan. But given your theory, everyone could be a cheater.

this is my point. Sombra was really good on lan. so saying pheonix was good on lan doesnt mean he cant be a cheater online now.

And at the same time doesn't mean he is necessarly a cheater. So its kinda pointless.

such is life :D

not as a duel player though, he got carried by akiles&co in tdm.

um not really.

uhm yeah, ...?

Well, if you actually had an idea about Quake, you would know that Phoenix showed the exact same, at times crazy, aim at Gamegune, where he almost beat CZM and took a map from av3k.
It would be alot better to have some basic information about players before calling them dodgy.

Also, it is incredible that a huge lamer like Guard, who indeed is a dodgy player, calls legit players that own him "fucking aimbot". Personally, I think that should have lead to the disqualification of Guard happening i competition, but Quake does unfortunately not really have any standards regarding fair play.

Regarding Noctis, he is himself a player that camps plenty, so he definitely knows what he is calling out!

I'm sorry I haven't researched Quake






^.-

It is annoying when people make assumptions because of a lack of knowledge.
Gamegune was a high profile tournament, and true Quake fans will know what Phoenix did there.

Does anyone know why Sl1p, rather than Phoenix, is playing at ESWC for Spain btw?

I'm not calling the guy out on it (actually no wait, I probably am) and I don't doubt it's probably just that he's very good

That's like saying: "Nadal moves so much without getting tired, he is probably getting that special Fuentes treatment. But I'm not calling him a doper (wait a minute, I actually am), he probably just has that freak ability."

In one case, however, we have a proven, legit player, while Nadal is surely cheating, just as a sidenote.

yes, because sl1p won the gameon spanish cup alongside with some other spanish tournaments, while phoenix only made it to top3

sombra was really good on lan

Not beating-av3k-and czm-good.

The point is that Phoenix played the exact same defensive game with partly sick rails and lg at Gamegune, there is simply nothing that suggests he isn't a legit player.

Also with that sort of argument, any player lan proven or not is suspicious.

so you're saying he couldn't be hacking? how do you know? just cause maybe he hit a sick shot on lan means he couldn't cheat online?

Seen it before plenty of times. Players who are actually pretty good on LAN actually using cheats online just because they can't be caught and they want an easy ride.

Again, not saying this guy is, I'm just creating DRAMAZ :]

What is even the point of that? I mean, if you are good enough to get decent results on LAN where you obviously can't cheat, why would you play with cheats online? Wouldn't that bring a risk of learning bad habits (getting used to relying on the cheats) and getting caught Sombra style?

I can understand (even if not approve) someone using cheats to boost their skill, that's what cheating is supposed to do after all - get you results. But if that's out of the equation, all that's left is someone being a complete and utter fucking idiot for jeopardizing his good name and his innate skills.

i think he didnt mean cheater with calling him bot.. its like saying noob in russian.. bot,nob,fag etc

GJ poni, looked like some nice solid games, he didnt let noctis get away with anything.

Dont understand the annoyance over ponis playstyle though.. Sure its annoying, but if it works it works. Plus its not like Noctis was playing the most "honorable" style.. Nothing more annoying to me than playing against someone who waits behind corners like that.

dishonorable = cheating (aimbot, wallhack, etc.)
honorable = everything else

Man this guy has way to much fucking patience.

please any way to win is honorable, and if you don't like +back i don't like the time calculators. Playing +back it's difficult too