Yes.

:D
second 1.1 ive had, actually
first one was the one with side buttons, but after a while it wouldn't stop clicking
say i left clicked, it would left click 4-6 times, or not click at all
definitely not cool in LG fights -_-

I think both are great
But since I'm a lefty, I havent actually used the DA, but my brother does (who comes from IMO1.1a too). After trying the Logitech G3 with its bad tracking speed, I'm still on the Microsoft mouse. And I hate razers own shapes (Habu/DA shape is like the MS IME3.0, hence their cooperation).

really like the shape and sidebuttons of the IMO 1.1a
but the technology is better in the DA, 3G optical is great

i don't deny that the mouse tracks great, but compared to a 1.1 or 1.1a, i don't think it's really worth justifying the purchase, unless you play with an ultra-low sensitivity and need something that'll keep up with 40cm-60cm per 360
myself, im at about 8-10cm per 360 depending on how fast i move my mouse(use accel)
so i can't justify the purchase of a Salmosa or something similar, im completely happy with my 1.1

And I didnt say the IMO1.1a skips :) it's just that the DA is more precise and stable.

With your sens, I would rather have a laser mouse actually.

i've been using the same sensitivity/accel for about 3 years now
i tried the razer copperhead, both versions of the G5, and microsoft/razer habu
ALL OF THEM had problems skipping, like they couldn't keep up with my movements
i've tried different mousemats too, as i have a few laying around
func 1030, a few cloth ones including a QCK Heavy
i ended up just being happy with my 1.1 and the Heavy

try g9 and this:
http://www.nuke-z.de/produkte_z8.htm

unskipable :)

contrary to popular belief, and from the looks about a recent journal of mine, i'm straight
thanks though

I know seeing a long black tube makes you all warm inside,but you're actually supposed to use whats in it.

wat

wat

wat

y ruin ruiner?

wat

<obvious reply>

you could've tried a little and kept the "wat" going
fuck it, THIS THREAD IS ABOUT DOLPHINS NOW.

I dont think it was the 'long black tube' that scared him, most likely the section that says

FAKTEN:

- super Gleiteigenschaften

The super Gleiteigenschaften can be pretty intimidating.

You tried very low sens and it didnt skip? I just bought a g9 and its skipping badly on my qck heavy when im moving alot..
Are there any special dpi settings you using maybe?

Please try and tell me cause i would buy one asap if it doesnt skip :)

yes it doesnt like the qck. I bought a nuke-z cloth pad which is excellent and its very hard to make g9 skip, I'd say unless you try to do like the fastest possible 360 turn over the whole pad, but I could not make it skip doing an 180-200 deg turn. I use 35cm/360 and have absolutely no problems with skipping.

Awesome! Thanks alot for this info man... i'll order one tomorrow! :)

on the other hand you can try the roccat . I bought one just for the fuck of it and it's a good mouse. also it definitely likes the qck and has a better shape than g9.

the downside is it's lowest dpi is 800 which means you need drivers to get remotely the same feel as with 400dpi mouse and also to turn off the stupid lights. with g9 on the other hand you just plug it in and at 400 dpi feels exactly like IE3.0 only more precise.

its no more precise unless you're going 40cm+

Not only the tracking speed is better, also the image taken by sensor is better. With your 8-10cm sens, you would especially benefit from the higher resolution (dpi). So I'm actually saying the opposite; the higher your sens, the less ideal the intellieye is.

know the feeling, 90cm/360 forces me to use DA

O_O
90cm
you serious?

Not in Quake, wolfenstein :)

Quake sens is ~45/360

was gonna say "what's your lg%?"
ROFL

love you snipers, especially when you can't turn around when somoene sidesteps you. :=

i have no idea what sidestepping is but I can turn around fast enough

http://www.montykins.com/mkins/ShipWheel.jpg

( I wish I knew how to attach files :| )

Y

cooller says yes

i also use accel and picmip 5
does this mean he'll come to my house and personally shake my hand?
and hopefully bring vodka? im a big fan of stoly

Be sure to overclock the usb port to 500hz, that fucker is way too sharpy at 125hz

yeah, i really have to
if i leave it at stock polling, my screen feels choppy when i look around, even at 125fps solid
only happens in qw/q2/q3/ql/wsw
doesn't happen in hl2dm or anything else

Yep, I notice it A LOT specially when shafting. I GUESS all lans are allowing that overcloking app nowadays, if not, I don't get how the pros using it play with it.

for a long time, i just got used to it
then i just got fed up with having to deal with bullshit, even though it no longer effected the way i played
so unless they do allow usb oc apps, im guessing they just deal with it =/
"considering the shitty monitors"

i don't think it's allowed. i know it feels much better when overclocked but since the beginning of this year, i've been playing at stock 125 as i intended to participate in the ESWC qualifiers here. now, i've just gotten used to 125hz and tbh, i don't see any difference in accuracy.

It is. People that went to ESWC where allowed to use it. They said it was fordbiden on CPL and WSVG but oh these are dead so who gives a fuck.

yes i saw your other thread and overclocked my IE3 to 500hz. i can't decide between 500 and 250. anyway... do you know which tool was allowed? usbrate.exe or that other one linked in Sujoy's Mousescore thread?

http://files.filefront.com/hidusbfzip/;8590375;/fileinfo.html

(wmo + teflon tape) / cloth pad = awesome

i would, but i like the friction i get

worst choice ever, DA >* (at least for low sens like meh)

not for mid sens/high accel like meh

there's no arguing the tracking capability, it's the (relatively) poor ergonomics, and horrible delay on button clicks that caused me to essentially ignore my D.A. for 11 of the 14 months I've owned it.

delay on button clicks? :D

best choice ever, wmo > * (at least for tox, cooller, fox and cypher whom have varying sens from high to low)

that's what im sayin!

i wanna get rid of my ie 3 and get a wmo :< but i can't find them anywhere around here.

seriously?
i can find 1.1's/wmo's in walmart's around here for $10
i'm suprised nowhere near you in India stocks them, it's one of the most popular mice out there
not only with gamers, either.

pointless almost identical really

asides from completely different body shapes, yep

completely different?

what?

they're _very_ similar, the ie just has a slightly larger back

which makes all the difference. the length of the mice are almost similar. where they differ is the height and weight. the IE definitely feels bulkier to me... by quite a bit. my hands aren't too big.

add "blind" to your profile description

I have both, I'm hardly blind.

they take very little adjustment if any

I've never had trouble swapping equipment apart from losing a solid 'feel' but stats have always remained the same even with a cheap shitty laser mouse I had to use.

perhaps people are just too obsessed.

it's easy to switch from WMO to IE30 fcourse, the feel is pretty similar. it's just the shape that's very different.

the IE is bigger and heavier. not pointless at all. with the added weight, i find myself "throwing" the mouse around more on flicks and circle jumps and because of that, i can't control it as well as the WMO. i prefer the IE shape but i just wish it had the size and weight of the WMO.

silly.

No sidebuttons. ZZZ.

i had a 1.1, and never used the sidebuttons anyways

I've used 'em all and prefer 1.1a over 'em all. So yeah, its awsome by me :)

=]

best. mouse. ever.

period.

game over.

srsly.

:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

i think i got my wmo 1.1a from play.com for £9 delivered or something stupid

they're so cheap, you'd be stupid not to buy one, imho

Incase of laser then G9X (april I think) until a corded bluetrack is available.

not a fan of laser mice
thanks for the suggestion though ''=]

so how did it react ?! was it a big drama scene or did it just accept the situation? did you prep it with some smooth talk before you broke the news? so many questions..

took it out to dinner
being in a public place lowered the likelihood of a scene
needless to say, it helped
i even left the tip

smooth operator

LOL I GEDDIT

can't be bothered to inline the img

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons..._Black.jpg

^- black. since they have bigger.... cords... :o

heheheheh
that's what im using ''=]

Sorry for a offtopic question... a glides from imo 1.1 will go with wmo 1.1? Size of the glides is the same in this case?

yeah