NICE WORK KILLAT0N!!!!1!!111! Cant wait for III :D especial cuz of the 1.3 movment hehe ! keep up the great work man gg :P

-Anub1s

quakcon frag videos are boring, especially for content :<
anyway gj :>

i hope your video crashes and burns

diediedie

omg nub

you. play. clan arena.

Yep. Any problems?
If u could offer another application for my aiming skillz - just tell me :>

Pong.

diek :<

Excellent work killa :)

i hope u make one of wsvg uk ;)
gj man

yeah. me 2

is this still 1.2 or already 1.3 movement?

I believe Quakecon was still 1.2.

That was 1.2 movement.

Downloading. Thanks killat0n!

Owned by Vo0.

What are you talking about?

about vo0

i love pure frag vids with no bs fx and zz interludes. gj, man. make more!

btw, is it because my computer is old and actin' a fool, or are the hitsounds sometime out of sync?

Thats a problem with the codec for lower processor speeds, you need like at least 2.4 ghz for it to run good on the codec.

but i have 3 :<

Well thats odd, lets just leave it at this then: the codec is crap.

Never liked it, yet people keep using it and dvix has worked for years and is only like 1% more file size.

the codec isn't crap. just that many people don't know how to encode effectively with it.. and they don't really pay attention to decoding either. a lot of people simply increase the bitrate to get better quality but that can have negative effects such as poor playback on some computers.

Keep up the good work man!

nice video, did you use fraps or avidemo?

looks like it was done with the help of avidemo...

great loved it :D

please release some NORMAL quality version. i can't watch the first movie =(

Download VLC(VideoLan player), and it'll work.

yes i'm trying to play it with VLC and it won't play properly

heh, for the first time ever, Windows Media Player gave me the solution here, in VLC it would lock up every few seconds and with WMP it worked fine for me

try updating VLC? Do you have the latest version?

was trying 0.84a and the up-to-date 0.85 and the playback is just broken...
btw my pc is pentium 4 (prescott) 3000mhz and it has 512mb of ddr400 so it's outdated BUT i'm kinda sure it is supposed to play any movie just OK. hell, i've watched 1024*something videos - just fine. don't code with that x264 shit!

enjoyed 1 more, but keep em coming ;) 1.3 will for sure have more entertaining frags ! GJ

the best q4 frag movie yet

Very impressive movie!

Thx killaton . Waiting for ur news works !

[+]

Nice one! thanks alot!

Nice stuff, at first I thought 'oh, 1.2, zzz' but then as I kept watching, it got alot better, very nice. Hope for some 1.3 stuff :D

Good movie, is there going to be a Bloodshed III? :D

no its gona be Bloodshed 1.3

guess so :)

*waits for xvid*

O M G i was waiting for this one for so long !!!!! :D, i tought you forgot about it :), seems not :D. GRAIT JOB MATE!!!!

Espeacially Av3k's frag(7:14) on phrantic with plazma is foooking awesome. Very enjoy this moment!

1 more time AWESOME job!

Ok i attend your divx version for full viewing because i get to many errors, even with vlc, i can watch the movie in bs player but then i have to watch it in slomo :D, in vlc it stops every 10 secs, i mis 5 secs and then it continues :D. so i await your xvid :D.

Watched it with XP1700@2100MHz with no laggz :(

nice video, that someone vs toxic frag on placebo was nice

forever's

agh why is this in the forum and not movie listing!

Yes, why? ;]

coz it should be in the movie section not forum :/

;)

Waiting for a proper (xvid) version. Hopefully it isn't in overkill 12451294x631213 50 MB/min 100 fps quality.

cool video, seemd to have little slowdowns sometimes tho, video/audio synch problems (mp4 sux imo ;p) but, cool video with some ok frags, q4 ftw :>

More links please. Torrent?

thanks.

Agreed, even a torrent would be faster than the only host posted so far :(

idd 128 kB/s lel, no way for me to get it @ this speed ^^

There are at least 3 servers hosting this file. Thats more than enough if you have a download software.

woops, your comment was made yesterday :)

Who has problems with playbacking this movie (X264 codec) just use VLC media player:

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-windows.html

Except x264 videos eat like 100% cpu and skips frames even on 2,2 GHz amd xp 2700+.

not here, and I barely reach 2700+ performance. \o/

2,1 GHZ here never had probs with x264 up to 1280 res.

duh

i dont like to have 800 different players for 800 different types of files, is there a solution for mpc users with x264 ffdshow ? :)

I don't know

there is. just get the latest files from www.x264.nl (ffdshow and the matroska splitter). works without any hassles for me.

Wow, that works really well, thanks! ^_^

np :>

I use vlc for streaming and the community codec pack with bsplayer or mpc for about everything else, have no trouble playing series, movies, or anything else. :)
Except that video though, froze more than once. :[
Didn't try vlc though since the content wasn't worth the hassle anyway. :P

well i only use mpc with ffdshow stuff and some seperate codecs to encode stuff myself, and i can watch everything, just not mp4 files wich tend to work with like 10% less frames, so in the end its unsynched audio/video, then it catches up again, and goes out of synhc, its crap! and its not my pc :>

h264 is too shitty atm, needs more solid codecs so even 1080p works fullspeed :>

i've said it quite a few times before.. the tech behind h.264 codecs is definitely going down the right path and is making good progress atm. however, it isn't really meant for the mainstream users as yet and due to it having a complicated encoding process when compared to that of XviD, many people turn on the wrong settings which results in bad playback performance. a well encoded h.264 video at relatively high resolution should playback fine on an average computer by today's standards. check the HD trailers over at www.apple.com . you most likely won't have a problem playing their quicktime h.264 vids.

well, i used to be able to watch upto 720, 1080 stuttered like crazy.. but i just updated my ffdshow and installed additional 264 drivers, tested another 1080p ( http://www.apple.com/trailers/lions_gate/bug/hd/ )

seemed to work fine, so i guess it was just an old driver \o/

edit: mp4 also seemed to run ok, i think its just the shotgun sounds/animations that make it look like crap :P

see? :) most of the time, x.264 playback issues are due to outdated software and codec conflicts. sadly, the highly advanced features it possesses is also its downfall as it's not easy to use for everybody.

Looking for ward to watching it... Downloading it now...

X264 codec is causing so many problems but still "movie makers" keep making it in that format

sad....

yeah cause its soooo much better than xvid, people just have to learn how to play it.. its new, remember

it's not that much better, and it's a huge inconveniance for most people, having to learn how to play a video file is a pretty stupid thing to have to do

actually x264 is an improvement over XviD in many ways. it gives MUCH better quality for the mb. the only drawbacks atm are painfully slow encoding times (which doesn't affect the people who watch) and higher system requirements which in reality are not very high considering the kinda rigs most people have these days.

there's hardly anything to learn about playing an x.264 file.. you just have to double click 2 installers instead of 1 which doesn't take too long. there's always VLC if you don't wanna do even that. about playback issues, in many cases they are caused by things like having codec packs installed which is a bad idea anyway, no matter what file you are trying to play.

there's was similar whine during the days when people were switching over to XviD from DivX. so many people complained but in the end, they got used to it and it seems to be accepted now that XviD does a better job than DivX in most cases. however, with HD videos gaining momentum, there needs to be improvements in codecs to cover the limitations of ASP and that's why AVC codecs such as x.264 are being developed. it is quite likely that they will be used a lot in the near future so it would be a good idea to get used to them now :)

ppl were sayin its new last year
if ure only gonna release 1 version on official release it shud be xvid above anything else

surely movie makers want there movies to be seen by as many ppl as possible. if a movie only has an xvid version ppl who can play x264 will still d/l it. same cant be said wit x264

killaton make an xvid vers for #1 too i sed on the own-age page a while ago

agree, an xvid version should be avaiable too, but hopefully in a near future x264 will be way more userfriendly, it'd gain everyone

it has too... well atleast some new codec has to gain popularity with the masses or else we can kiss HD video goodbye. XviD is slowly showing its age.

I would really like to watch this, but with a 40k/bs download speed from that host, its unlikely to reach my hard drive within the next 3 hours (and I do have a few other things to do :p).

Perhaps someone could be kind enough to host it somewhere quicker?

we need RogeR

my vlc keeps crashing when i try to play the vid :(

version ?

0.8.4

Out of date, might be the problem.

0.8.5 sounds kinda similar, will try it anyway

edit: didtn change anything

yep ive had that problem 2!

do i need to update it or something?

x264 is always laggy for me when it does work, and ive got a p4 3.2ghz 1gig ram etc!

I am downloading at 700+ kb/s

looking forward to a great followup to the best q4 frag video to date

the second one?

yes, don't know why people are downloading slowly

im not like *that*, but "tournement"?

g0t vlc 0.85 ?


@video : yeah ! really nice fragz - nice editing - and a song by rammstein \o/

*THUMBS UP*

but planetquake.de was this time faster with the news ;)

ye this was posted in the forum 2 days ago and sadly got over looked... should have been added as movie news to start with :/

crashes vlc 0.8.5, skips all over the place and sound out of sync in bsplayer etc.

I had already enjoyed your first movie and was looking forward for the next one.
As expected I really enjoyed this one too.

I hope you will keep on doing nice vidz like this.

ok, waiting for the xvid version. Btw, this movie sound really nice, after releasing xvid version, I will definetly download it!

I´m truly dissapointed. Q4 not only is boring to play, it´s even boring to watch :( (let the flame begin)

[-]

>8(

Yeah, the video seemed to contain mostly rail/LG kills which aren't all that exciting most of the time... just lock crosshair on enemy and fire.

yea, you don't see many air rockets in Q4 at all... I guess it's because the player is so heavy that it's hard to really lift him into the air.

you never played Q4 1.3, dont´cha ?!
if you want a Q4 airrocket movie, watch this...
http://files.filefront.com/KNISTER___The_Movi...einfo.html

lol it has no airrockets xD

looks like your eyes are broken O_o

DID YOU COUNT THOSE WALL 5-METER ONES?

there are 2-3 wallairrockets.. the rest is all directhit

direct hit when the enemy is near wall != direct hit in pure air.
<3 depth preseption

about 50% of the gibbs are GL/RL airgibb u little moron

oh sorry that happens sometimes even if you play 1 hour per week xD

nice hostmask

i don't play q4 so i'm not going to argue about the gameplay, but I actually enjoyed watching this movie (like many others), so i guess it's u that's boring about this all ! ;o

Q4 frag movie = GOLD!!!!

Amazing job Randy, loved it!! = D

Nice vid, hope all the events get their own vid, and then some supercompil-vid afterwards!! yay!11

*waits for xvid version*

Killa,
This is very very good. The xtra effects made it even better then the beta and the quality of it should be used to introduce how Quake 4 actually does look good and is good for spectators. 1.3 will even be better. Great job man

St

Was the video REALLY dark for anybody else? I could see the glow of the players fine, but the levels were pitch black so the frags were hard to see.

Omg a disturbed song used in a quake-vid?! Who would have thought of that.

Didnt really like the movie but that's due to the game not to the video. Keep them coming and please dont use Disturbed songs anymore..think every vid has atleast one song from them.

sure beats Linkin Park!

My sound would go out of sync after about 30-60 seconds of playback then I'd have to use the search bar to start the video from where I was at to watch it for another 30-60 seconds. Overall - quite annoying.

Good video, however.

was rather boring

First q4 anything i've seen. The movie was fine, the game was boring as shit.

Now i remember why i didnt bother trying to spec q4 sooner.

mirror sux :[

so frustrating that VLC crashes :/

using the latest version?

yeah I am, but guess its my pc. It crashes pretty quickly when it starts with the hyperblaster and then over to the LG of tox on monsoon. Anyways, saw the quality, watching my frozen screen, and its really good I must say

it better be good quality for 400 mb :P

Lower spec PCs could try CoreAVC as the decoder, it's commercial but has the edge when it comes to decoding performance.

i never playd quake 4 b4 but is it me or the rail shots boring and not that hard looking like cpma rail flicks. watching vo0 rail wus art, watching quake 4 rails its more like point click cant miss, could be wrong just didnt get the same affect after watching vo0 montage and demos/

still waiting for the Xvid version, as the x264 version is lagging, even though I'm using the latest VLC and my computer exceeds the requirements to play the movie =[

The 1st bloodshed movie runs ok EVEN WITH post processing at MAX.

Wow, that was boring. Seriously, I saw like one or two "impressive" frags. Other than that it was just a bunch of rails and shaft.

[-] for the retarded music. So fed up with the same songs over and over and over again.

Well I agree that shaft might not be so cool to see, but actually some shaft frags are really difficult to do, cause they keep hitting constantly and that's kinda hard.

I dunno if it has been changed but last time I played Q4 the shaft was crazy. Crazy as in a bit too easy to use, especially on LAN.

Oh well, it might just be that Q4 actually is that boring to watch. Never really watched any games due to the GREAT streams we've had before.

The domination of the shaft prior to 1.3 has been replaced by the rocket launcher now, except that it's now retardedly easy to use. Personally, I think 1.2's shaft was better for competition because it really rewarded precision aim (see: Stermy vs. cl0ck @ Lanwar) and helped determine fragging ability better. 1.3's shaft is useless in comparison now, at least IMO -- it's, at best, a middle-priority weapon next to the hyberblaster and shotgun.

tell that to toxic

Well, I realized recently that, regardless of the LG now in contrast to the LG in 1.2, it still plays an important role. My bad! >_>

I love the quality, but this codec performs horribly on my laptop. :(

While not the best quality, PQ4 does have the video available for viewing with Flash which makes viewing a snap. :)..

I dont get it, why are you people whining about x264, i'v installed it once (can't even remember when) and never ever had any problems playing x264 videos.

Install CCCP codec pack and, voala, all problems solved.

BOOOORIng but not because of teh movie maker ist becauase of the game man its so SLOW i fall almost in sleep and and he zooms and yes he hits the rail , hell , never saw any zooming in quake 3 -
u thinks snails are shoting against each otehr man quake 4 is so slow especially of the weapon switch time

hell , never saw any zooming in quake 3

that's because zooming info is not transferred over network. so you didn't see it in any demos unlike in q4.

[e] watched and enjoyed it. any q4 fragmovie is welcome : D looking forward to 1.3 ones, though.

overall it was an ok movie i thought. i had several problems trying to watch it with vlc though. frame drops, sound drops, vlc crashes etc. i dont usually have problems watching x264 videos but this one was especially problematic.

i thought the frags, considering it was quake 4, were decent although q3 frag movies seem to be more interesting. but with that said 8/10. i can only imagine how big of a pain in the ass it was to make a q4 movie as the game seems rather unreasonable even when playing.

btw. USE XVID! thanks

btw. USE XVID! thanks

Did you miss the "I will be releasing mulitple quality versions. Along with an xvid version probably tomorrow" part?

seeing as how its right there on the page. no. no need to be an ass about it, should have just used xvid in the first place

It was allright. No original music, no special editing, no very special content (though that one 3rdperson midair rocket was sick and that av3k frag was as well). But well, good initiative.
How on earth did you get this movie to weigh 400 mb for 8 minutes?

x264 power

I mean, thats an awfull lot of mbs for x264 and 8 minutes

atleast when it's only 800x600 and 30fps from what I can see.

good movie, well done, but brings back depressing memories of 1.2...thank god those days are gone.

kinda boring. would have been loads better with 1.3 i guess but the moviemaker did a good job of displaying the frags. av3k stole the show :) would have enjoyed a bit of synching but atleast all the frags were clearly shown. good luck with your 1.3 movie.

for me watching 1.2 is like riding a bus. i always fall asleep.

edit : like lauwef said, 400mb is also way too big for a medium resolution 10 minute movie using x264. you can get good quality for that duration for around 300mb using XviD and with x264 it should only be easier to get better quality.

a proper x264 encoding should have been around 200mb for this.

yup.. i was talking about xvid when i said 300 and even that is on the higher end.

Nice movie , GJ :)
I hope you make 1.3 gameplay movie.
That will be more fun to watch.

Very nice quality for q4, but still, too high codec settings.

For me it runs more smooth with ffdshow and wmpc instead of vlc (but vlc doesn't go out of sync like wmpc does sometimes)

Frags themselves were, not super duper impressive, but from one tourney it wasn't bad, strange no more frags from the 2v2s were shown.

Anyway, now ppl can see it's possible to pretty nice quality with q4, just need a bith smoothness (multisampling / a little bit motionblur)

releasing this as x264 in the first place may be a mistake, because animosities towards this codec will rise with every person not being able to watch the movie properly. imagine u had offered an xvid AND x264 version at the same time, everyone could pick their favourite codec, impositioning a new format is not the way it should be. and to be honest, I'd rather watch an xvid with lower quality but smooth instead of the highres x264 version

in like 1 year, the problem shouldn't be there anymore since hardware improvements do the rest.. :)

anyhow, got it on my hd at home and will watch this evening, but judging from the comments, it seems to be a good movie ;)

And to the comment concerning the switch from divx to xvid, that was in no way comparable to the switch from xvid to x264. Not everyone wants to download a player for every codec, and even in VLC, the new one sometimes won't play properly. Look at Xvid, no problem there...

that reminds me of q4 over q3 discussions

xvid suxx : ( it doesnt have the same quality as x264 has...


@all: plz don't think q4 is that slow ... its PR 1.2 !!!

in PR 1.3 the game is much faster and the movement is much more complexive!
U have to give q4 a chance!! it isnt a bad game at all, just a game with a bad start ;)

and id's workin hard on it and the mod - community too! look @ Bandit - vert1as etc ---> GTR MOD --> impressive!

of course cpma etc is also a good game... yeah of course but u shouldnt be that conversative to say : "only q3 - anything else isnt 1337 enough!"

never played it...but q4 looks so shite compared to q3 :( it's just so slow and it looks so....as if the players were running in a thick mud pond....sluggish!

p.s that new codec is ghey too!

q4 atm, is faster compared to q3 ;>

also, if ur good with making configs, q4 is enjoyable just like q3 is ;p

I didn't see tox die.. once. :|

thanks to him he died and forever made prolly the best frag of the whole movie with that spamed rocket

Was that boring only for me? And I had high expectations for this movie. Twas my first q4 movie, and was expecting a lot more in content. Codec was good for me, runned smoothly with VLC.

But q4 looks so slow. And so rail/shaft-friendly :/
I mean usually, previous quake frag movies have the majority of their frags made with a rocket launcher, q4 is all about rail/shaft as it seems.

I

rofl @ the last line in the credits

Unable to watch using VLC, keeps freezing the images all the time while sound keeps on playing. I'll just wait for the xvid version.

this vid truely catches the spirit of q4.

haha ye...

love your sarcasm btw ;)

Can't really blame the movie maker for q4 frags being utterly boring.

However, the movie maker CAN be blamed for the fact that 95% of the frags he chose to display are made when the player is leading with +15 frags, making the frags even less impressive (if thats possible).

it's not his fault that the best frags were made when the player had that kind of lead, so this point is not valid.

Lol at the variety of votes, shit looks like winamp.

hahaha

when its gonna be Xvid version?
"probably tomorrow"... where?

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HOLY FUCK! settle down, everyone :P

re-encoded with x264, got same quality at 330mb, and smoother play back. will upload that now.

I do have other things going on, and like everyone said, this is just a 1.2 movie, which imho is pretty boring. but once i got started on it, i wasn't going to stop :/

It's really really hard to please the q3 fans with this game and making a movie using it. And that's really not my aim at all. Because i knew going into this that maybe %5 of q3 players that watch this will even remotely find it interesting. But i just made this to learn a little more about movie making, and bottom line is for some reason i like the game. Even though it's the biggest peice of shit, and don't think for a second that i don't know that. haha

xvid version this weekend. People with crap computers are used to waiting for things anyways.....so you can wait a little longer :P

Well I've downloaded it and it STILL lags for me =[

A little less then the first "version", but lags a lot

But i just made this to learn a little more about movie making, and bottom line is for some reason i like the game.

good luck if you're planning to make another movie soon. just one suggestion : try and read up on some encoding guides on the net if you have the time. most people shouldn't really have a problem with a 900x600 30 fps x.264 video, the system requirements are not THAT high. i'm guessing some improper settings were enabled leading to the playback issues people are complaining about. i could be wrong though.

*also, i really apologize for everyone with playback issues. I knew that people were going to have problems but for some reason i released it anyways, *slaps forehead, doh*

Only excuse i have for that, is that i'm impatient.

I just wonder WHY THE HELL a lot of people WITH the system requirements and the right software (like me) are having playback problems...

wheres the xvid vers already
make an xvid for bloodshed 1 too
and in future if u insist on x264 then xvid too on release or xvid only

I made a DivX version of Bloodshed II. The quality is a bit worse than X264 version but it is enjoyable enough.

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1227456

ye its 97% d/ld

As someone who enjoys playing Q4 competitively, I also enjoy watching a lot of the Q4 frag videos out there as long as they aren't all-rail. I find them to be more of a raw demonstration of skill than an attempt to hot-dog for the camera, although I've always gone for the movieworthy frags in duels myself. :P

With that said, the frags were consistently good. As it was mentioned before, av3k certainly did steal the show -- he shows he has one of the best HB's in the world in the clip at 7:14. Other clips, such as forever's prediction rocket on Toxic and pretty much all of Toxic's clips versus fake_id (sorry, Chris :<), were pretty sick, too. My personal favorite would have to be Cooller's awkwardly angled rocket juggle vs. 2GD.

On the other hand, Randy, now that you've learned to make a high-quality frag video with well-designed recam tools, LEARN TO COMPRESS!! :P

tool <3

As a movie I don't see anything spectacular here, as a frag showoff, well this is q4's problem, but it indeed is very boring, and what tops it is the fact that it's encoded just horribly, these days both x264, aswell XviD formats or only XviD are neccessery because releasing only x264 you are limiting your watchers really. I can't play this thing back properly, sounds are offset from the first second on and it starts to lag horribly after 2 minutes, I can't even rate this movie. I don't have a very good pc, but I can watch ALOT of mp4's, which means that this one just isn't encoded properly.

nice work. 1.3 should bring more air rox etc :)

the cut from tool to disturbed at the beginning was dope. thanks for the vid.

np :) glad you liked it.

Bloodshed 1.3 (WCG Italy Highlights) I plan to release Friday (12/22/06). The 1.3 point release has really helped me bring a whole new look and feel to Quake 4 that i think everyone will enjoy.