good luck mate, sounds like a sweet job plenty of promise

oO nice job . gl :D

Well done!

always nice to have a job, that is actually fun!

Wow, congrats! Shame it doesn't look like my kind of game, else I'd ask if they needed a voice actor :)))

Just back from work :D Was quite fun and all the coworkers I've met are really nice. My friend also got a job as the same position so we're almost deskmates. Just learning the software at the moment, and we got to playtest a bit, not really my kind of game, but pretty nice nonetheless. :D

Feeling excited about work for the first time since... Ever :D

Be careful what you say online if you're in the games business.

There's a lot bitching and backstabbing that goes on, only to be expected in an industry that is primariliy filled with under developed adults.

It's a two faced industry so watch yourself.

Don't use email from work becasue they read it.

Don't post on forums from work cuz they read it.
Especially after that business with the EA employee slagging them off on the net.

Just be neutral and LEARN and you'll be fine.
Oh and learn LUA and 3ds/maya in your spare time if you're not already. If you know those and know about games you'll be valuable.

This isn't EA I'm working for, Grin is an open and nice company, and as long as I don't reveal any company secrets I can say anything I want, at least from what I've heard so far. I think you're overestimating the potential for evil here :D.

Emotional 20-year-old guys have nothing on greedy middle aged men when it comes to evil corporations.

haha my thoughts exactly... jamerio just sounds overly paranoid.

idd

maybe i'd go for the word 'experienced'... although it's nearly synonymous ;>

Do you know what it's like to work for a professional dev team, or is this just an opinion or a perception of an industry you think you know about becasue you play computer games?

I'm talking about the things that go on behind the scenes, the politics, the bickering etc, the relationships between designers, artists, coders etc, producers, directors blah blah.
The stuff you only get to see when you've been at a place for a while. "His texturing sucks", "his code is slow or bad" "He got more royalties than me" and the problems all that shit breeds?

It's also a genuine thing to mention what you do from work (any job) with regards to email and internet.
I'm not saying it's like that everywhere, I'm saying to bear it in mind and be careful who you trust.

I have education as a 3D artist and have therefore had many teachers who have worked YEARS in the game industry. I also have friends working in that industry. And let me tell you, their perception of the industry is not very cynical at all, quite the opposite in fact. Sure there is 'politics', 'bickering', 'relationships' and 'backstabbing', but come on Einstein, that holds true for pretty much any industry out there. You're ignorant if you think that's something that pertains exclusively or particularly to the game industry. Also, there is a huge difference between a company like EA and a small company where everyone basically knows each other inside out. Maybe your advice was well-intended, but I just thought it came across as a bunch of paranoia bullshit like you were trying to scare the guy instead of congratulating him on landing what appears to be a fine job.

No hard feelings =)

"Also, there is a huge difference between a company like EA and a small company where everyone basically knows each other inside out."

How little you know :). That's a very uninformed and general opinion. Take a look at the stuff that's happened at places like idsoftware over the years. Try telling John Romero that it's all well inside a small studio and he'll laugh. Just as I did.
I have worked at small and big places and I have worked outside of the game industry and I'm telling you the bickering is far worse in the game industry because so many people lack the social skills that other jobs have and they have the it experience to log all incoming and outgoing net traffic becasue of security.
I.E. uploading source code, giving away company secrets.

http://www.bizhelp24.com/business-law/monitor...ork-3.html

If anything small places are worse becasue it's easier to keep track of everyone and what they say plus the impact of something going wrong can spiral becasue employees don't feel so much like a cog in a machine. UNlike someone working in the public sector who does not really care about the job other than how much it pays.

Ofc no hard feelings:)
I said well done originally, but for example, a few posts ago, he posted a link to copies of quake 3 files that would allow people to play the game for free.
When you become a developer you have to watch what you do and say about stuff like that.
Especially if you post from your place of employment, becasue everything is logged and employers DO CHECK.

It's small world and the net makes it even smaller.
There's a difference between prudence and paranoia and I can make the distinction.

"Try telling John Romero that it's all well inside a small studio and he'll laugh."

Even a marriage can fall apart. I'm not saying everything is all well at all times in small companies.

"the bickering is far worse in the game industry because so many people lack the social skills that other jobs have."

Maybe you have been more lucky in other industries, but I can tell you there can be just as much bickering and backstabbing outside the game industry. I have a girlfriend who used to work in a call-center and the amount of bickering in there was just appalling. She was practically forced to quit that job because of her gossiping colleagues. And mind you, this was people with well-developed social skills (they are important when your job is basically to talk with people all day on the phone). Now people with social skills usually talk a lot more than your average nerd. All that gossiping constantly led to misunderstandings, rivalries and backstabbing. My experience is also that people who have a lot of social skills also have the abillity to be more manipulative. Just because they have a lot of social skills, don't mean they can't be your worst enemy.

Anyway, I'm sure your advice was well-intended. Maybe I just took it the wrong way the first time I read it. I also missed your "Well done!" in that separate comment :>

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heffa is canceled

??????

Didn't xrg say they won't make cpma tournies anymore?

tf you talking about, xrg is not trustable for any kind of truthful information, ever.

trudat, but what about clearing it up for the rest of us then? especially me : )

nice job man

chop chop chop

so you're sitting in front of your computer all day and are being paid for that (plus gaming?)?

Much of the day, some stuff is done on paper and there is some talking and planning the game etc.

I'm not sitting at home, I'm in the office, which is really nice. I couldn't work at home I think. The playtesting is nice to get paid for :D.

you'll need to do something for your health or your wrists will be utterly destroyed before you turn 40 ;)

his wrists is most likely getting some exercise in other ways..

You will get tired of playtesting very very fast.

Ive worked as a playtester for a while (getting paid to beta test games from various studios in other words) , and while it sounds like a dream job for most here .. it really is not.

It's a very stressfull job since every somewhat major bug we missed meant we could lose the contract with that particular studio. It also involved doing the same routines over and over again with about every different videocard - cpu - etc known to man. Ofcourse we also had to sign strict NDA's for every game so couldnt even really talk to anyone about work either.

The latest AAA title we worked on was City life so if anyone is playing that (hope not cause it kinda sucks) and its bugged you know who to flame =)

well, I'm not a gametester and I don't play very much :D

It's my responsibility to take feedback from Q&A guys and the other testers to make the levels better.

sounds great

good luck with that

Nice, but give me some more info ;)

Do you actual design the maps on paper then make them or are you just doing the making?

Similar to concept artists, modelers and animators if you like, the artist draws it up, someone models it and then send it over to the animator who will then likely send it to the rendering pro or whatever :) Which was something I had always wanted to do!

Nice pay as well for a first job :)

For SP I get a loose plan, say, for example, that the team needs to take our two anti-air bunkers, and they describe the general area and objectives, and then I get freeflow to design from there. In multiplayer I can do any map I want as long as there's enough maps for each gamemode.

This engine is very prop-based, so I basically tell modellers what kind of props I want and place them in my own fashion, model the terrain if I am to do that, and do AI scripting etc if singleplayer.

It's not as much fun as mapping for q3 or another brush-based engne, but it's nice, I'm going to learn Max soon so I don't have to bother the graphics artists so much.

gl!

LOL even when i say sumin nice. guess a hater admin was up early. lol...

it's better if you say nothing

i see uv buddied Yeltsin, conspiracy...

grattis till jobbet! men jag tjänar fortfarande bättre än dig : -D
ps: hur blir det med heffa sa du?

sounds like one helluva job, i must say. especially considering you haven't even been to college yet. congrats =)

Wow, that's a great job to get :) GL with it and hope it is all you want it to be =)

GRIN looks like a $$$ company at least from the web, good games as well, big clients. And 2k a month is a cool first deal :) Enjoy!

have you made any cpm maps? can't say I've seen your name on any recently...

www.chimpans.se/maps.html

don't bother with choptourney1, it's shit, but my other CPM maps are nice(especially astronomy) :D

heh I see you have a rq3 map. Is it any good now?

the skyscraper map looks pretty shitty, but is quite fun to play and is fairly popular :D

Or did you mean the hallway? It's not done at all.

Meant the mod mate :o

Maybe I should have been clearer. Played it when it was a beta.

oh, yeah, RQ3 3.3 is pretty damn nice :D

A little bit dead though, don't play it that much anymore, but there's always one or two euro servers going.

voodoo I'll kill u at lan!!! Oh and remember what we agreed on.. 10% for me as I supported you from irc.